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Boxes vs bricks on vertical column concrete

Sat Aug 22, 2015Total posts : 5
bala
bala
Join date: Jul 2014
Topic: Boxes vs bricks on vertical column concrete

Dear Friends,

This is for the First floor.

Column have been raised to 7 feet and all the walls are raised to 7 feet
Now slap (lintel) have been kept and completed
We have to raise the column up to 9'6". So balance 2'6"

Our doubt is do we need to use the Boxes for the balance column or 
directly concrete can be placed by raising the bricks wall to balance height and keeping woods in the side...

will it give enough grip to wall and column if we put concrete ?

thanks
Sat Aug 22, 2015Post  #1
S L Gupta (Civil Engg)
S L Gupta (Civil Engg)

Join date: Mar 2008
Dear Bala
          The proper way is to fill the column by using form work or box but in case you have difficulty than put concrete after raising brick work. In this case put 10% extra cement.
 
Sat Aug 22, 2015Post  #2
bala
bala

Join date: Jul 2014
Dear Sir,

thanks for your swift response.

This one is in first floor and column have to be placed above 7 feet from the first floor level.

And also we have to raise only 2'6" But the available shutter (Box) height is around 4" ( i think). 

Sir, if we put extra cement, will be there any strength issues ?

thanks   
 
Sat Aug 22, 2015Post  #3
S L Gupta (Civil Engg)
S L Gupta (Civil Engg)

Join date: Mar 2008
Dear Bala
     The process of filling the column or pillar with wooden planks after raising masonry..You should first fill the column with doing proper form work and compact cement concrete by vibrator.
The process tell by you with wooden planks have following disadvantage

Disadvantages

  • This is not water tight shuttering as the size and thickness of planks differ and are not of same size. Due to this difference the water and cement flow to the ground from joints and reduce the strength of concrete.
  • surface being uneven, the thickness of plaster is more which remains weak.
  • Due to leakage of cement slurry through joints, earth work below ’'Ballies’ may settle and create problems.
  • In some cases wooden planks can not bear the weight of concrete. Due to low strength there is bending or deflection in wooden planks. Sometimes the planks may break.
 
Sat Aug 22, 2015Post  #4
bala
bala

Join date: Jul 2014
Dear Sir,

Thanks for valuable response


 
Sat Aug 22, 2015Post  #5
JAI PRAKASH
JAI PRAKASH

Join date: May 2014
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