| Fri Apr 29, 2016 | Total posts : 7 |
|  Topic: Planning to construct a building for an orphanage
I am planning to construct a building to house about 10 orphans in the first year and slowly expand it to 20 orphans.
So, I would like to construct in 2 phases I phase - 1545 sqft II phase - 1425 sqft
The building will be in a village where labour is available in plenty at lower rates.
Is it better to hire a civil engineer and go for construction or to give the entire job to a contractor? Which would be cheaper and how much would each one cost (approximately)? |
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| Fri Apr 29, 2016 | Post #1 | S L Gupta (Civil Engg)
Join date: Mar 2008 | Dear Gopinath
It is very good that you are doing social service if needed I will do any job if required through discussion panel.
It is better to hire any civil engineer or any experienced person and do the work with your own material but if possible give it on contact of labor only, it will be cheap and of good quality. The rate relates to drawing and specification used in construction. However for this type of building the rate may be Rs 800-00 to 1000-00 per sft.
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| Fri Apr 29, 2016 | Post #2 | Gopinath
Join date: Apr 2016 | Thank you, Mr Gupta for the kind words and your offer for any help. By labor only contract, do you mean we purchase materials and pay only for labor?
Regarding the construction that would be optimal in cost, do you recommend going for a rectangular shape or a square shapte? For eg, I am planning to have a 100X15 building. Will this be easier and cost effective, compared with
40*38 building?
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| Sat Apr 30, 2016 | Post #3 | S L Gupta (Civil Engg)
Join date: Mar 2008 | Dear Gopinath
Labor rate contact means only labor payment including All the tools and shuttering planks etc. The building material is arrange by house owner. See the link below
Labor Contract vs. material contract
For building construction either our dream home or
office etc, one wants that the construction should be in time,
economical, strong and earthquake proof. In construction work there are
many things to be done by the owner like arranging drawings, design,
sanctions, labor and material etc. Apart from drawings and other
formalities there are two possibilities or ways to take construction
work in hand. One is through rate contact and second is labor rate
contact. Here are some points which give us comparison in between these
two options.
| Through Rate contact/ material contact |
Labor Rate contact |
| Through rate contact means that contractor arrange both i.e. building materials and labor |
In labor rate contact, house owner arrange all the building materials and labor is arranged by the contractor. |
| Through
rate contact is of two types, one is lump sum basis in which contractor
give rate per square feet for complete work of all items and second is
item rate contract in which all the items are measured separately and
paid accordingly as per contact, this is very typical and generally
used in government work. |
In
labor rate contact the rate is per square meter, there are further sub
contract i.e. one for complete structure, second for electrical, 3rd for
water supply and sewerage,4th for flooring and dado, 5th for joinery
and painting etc.
As for item rate it is in use in government work.
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| In
through rate contact, house owner have to spend less time at
construction work as all materials and labor is arrange by the
contractor. |
In labor contact, house owner have to spend more time as he has to arrange all building materials required for construction. |
| As
all material is arranged by the contractor, he cannot blame house owner
for delay in material arrangement. In this case for delay in materials
arrangement or shortage in quantity or not arrange according to sequence
is responsibility of house owner. |
In
this case for delay in materials arrangement or shortage in quantity or
not arrange according to sequence is responsibility of house owner. |
| In
this case contractor is responsible for watch and ward, wastage and
destruction/ damage of all items of building materials. In this case
house owner is responsible for watch and ward, wastage and destruction/
damage of all items of building materials. |
In this case house owner is responsible for watch and ward, wastage and destruction/ damage of all items of building materials. |
| In
this case there is every possibility of arranging sub standard building
materials by contractor to save money. |
No such possibility |
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Contractor tries to save the materials by using less quantity
especially in cement and steel bars to save money. No such possibility
arises as materials belong to house owner and contractor has no any
benefit for this act. |
No such possibility arises as materials belong to house owner and contractor has no any benefit for this act. |
| Contractor
tries to reduce the size of beam, slab, column etc from design drawing
to save materials and money. No such possibility arises as materials
belong to house owner and contractor has no any benefit for this act. |
No such possibility arises as materials belong to house owner and contractor has no any benefit for this act. |
| In
this case, generally it is seen that many dispute arises for changing
drawing, scope of work and for specifications, material quality quantity
etc. Rare chance. |
Rare chance. |
| In
through rate contact, it is necessary to see the credibility of
contractor in market as he has to arrange the materials. Not required. |
Not Required |
| In
this case there is more possibility for work delay taking more time to
complete the work as for some time he face difficulty in arranging
materials and labor due to financial problem. Fewer chances as he has to
arrange labor only. |
Fewer chances as he has to arrange labor only. |
| In
through rate contact, the house owner has to pay for materials and
labor i.e. heavy amount. In this case many time contractors brought less
material and ask money frequently and some time leads to break contract
in mid way. House owner will be strict to payment schedule and also
have a check on quantity and quality. Fewer chances as he has to pay for
labor only. |
Fewer chances as he has to arrange labor only. |
| In
this case house owner or his supervisor have to be very vigilant about
the work quality as contractor tries to save the material and money at
every point if it so small where he can. No such possibility |
No such possibility |
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| Sun May 01, 2016 | Post #4 | Gopinath
Join date: Apr 2016 | Thanks for the detailed response, Mr Gupta - very informative.
Do you know if the dimensions of the building impact cost of construction? For eg if I go for 100X15 building vs 40X42, would the cost be same or
different? | | |
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| Mon May 02, 2016 | Post #5 | S L Gupta (Civil Engg)
Join date: Mar 2008 | Dear Gopinath
The cost will be affected according to design and drawing.There is minute not so much difference in the compact building.If area is same than we have roof slab and flooring cost same. In compact building we save the cost of walls and plaster as some walls are common and common wall saves masonry and plaster. In compact building if design allow than we can construct part ion wall and in some cases saving in sun shade, plinth protection and front outer road or brick flooring.
The cost related to many factors it also have effect on the size of room i.e. if we have a room 10x10=100 sft and other 12x12= 144 sft i.e.1.44 time more area but cost of wall is 40 feet long and in other case 48 feet long i.e. wall cost is 1.2 times more but cost of slab and floor is according to area and same proportion.
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| Mon May 02, 2016 | Post #6 | Gopinath
Join date: Apr 2016 | Thanks, Mr Gupta for the details. Yes, I agree the difference is only
for the walls and is not much.
Regarding foundation, is pillar based foundation better and cheaper than
the regular foundation? We are planning to go up to 3 floors (G+2) | | |
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| Tue May 03, 2016 | Post #7 | JAI PRAKASH
Join date: May 2014 | Please contact for any help.
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